Session Start: Sat Aug 24 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
[00:00]<Craig> You're the one who said it.
[00:02]<Zuwer> Hm, now the site is "broked". :x
[00:02]<Craig> :P
[00:02]<Craig> You want to give it a try Zuwer?
[00:02]<Craig> http://www.brokedcomputer.com
[00:04]<Zuwer> Doesn't work for me.
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[00:07]<Craig> Want to try again?
[00:08]<@BC_Programming> timeout
[00:08]<Craig> ... frick.
[00:08]<Zuwer> Same result. :x
[00:09]<@BC_Programming> so
[00:09]<@BC_Programming> I think I just had my first serious disagreement
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[00:09]<@BC_Programming> Regarding the fact that their suite is separated into different programs for no reason
[00:09]<Craig> How so?
[00:09]<@BC_Programming> "it's because we don't want recursion"
[00:09]<@BC_Programming> How... How do I even approach that response
[00:10]<@BC_Programming> well OK that wasn't exactly what was said but it was the implication
[00:10]<@BC_Programming> eh
[00:11]<@BC_Programming> worst case scenario I can work 8 hours a day doing whatever They want even if it's a unilaterally dumb design- still beats anything else
[00:11]<Craig> Could you guys try once more.
[00:12]<Craig> hahaha, too true BC_Programming
[00:12]<@BC_Programming> Craig: still times out
[00:12]<Craig> AUUUUUUUGGGGGGGG
[00:12]<Craig> <Censored>
[00:12]<Zuwer> Threaten the server/router with a hammer.
[00:12]<@BC_Programming> ooh
[00:12]<Craig> router...
[00:12]<Craig> ?
[00:13]<@BC_Programming> Craig has to be really p'd to get <censored>!
[00:13]<Craig> Nah I typed Censored, to see if chanbot cared about me
[00:13]<@BC_Programming> oh
[00:13]<@BC_Programming> he doesn't
[00:13]<Craig> Nope
[00:13]<+Tux2> lol
[00:14]<+Tux2> testing <censored>
[00:14]<Craig> Anyone here know anything about firewall rules in PFSense?
[00:14]<Craig> (Yes I have googled it, and yes I am reading, but I need to see a demonstration...)
[00:15]<Zuwer> Wouldn't have a clue, prefer Cisco's ACL's.
[00:15]<+Tux2> sorry, I don't really know anything about pfsense, I've used clearos
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[00:21]<Craig> Hey Was someone able to see my website?!
[00:21]<Craig> I just had one say it was passed.
[00:22]<Zuwer> If it is an NZ IP, that would be me.
[00:22]<@BC_Programming> well I still get a timeout
[00:22]<Craig> No clue, but I see that it was passed,
[00:23]<Zuwer> I only moved to my desktop, I sometimes get annoyed with how slow things load on my laptop. :x
[00:23]<Craig> :P
[00:25]<Zuwer> There is a slight gap in performance between an AMD E1-1200 and an i5-2500k.
[00:28]<Craig> By the way Zuwer this is the processor I am running it on, AMD A4-5300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
[00:29]<Zuwer> Can't complain with that.
[00:29]<Craig> Its a bit OP for this purpose.
[00:33]<Zuwer> You never know, you may suddenly find yourself getting a lot of a PHP requests or something. (Don't know how much that would affect CPU usage though. :s)
[00:33]<Craig> Its a dual core
[00:34]<Zuwer> Fair enough, it would take quite a bit to make that stall.
[00:35]<Craig> You guys wanna try again?
[00:35]<Craig> http://www.brokedcomputer.com
[00:35]<Zuwer> Works fine on my end.
[00:36]<Craig> What about now?
[00:44]<Craig> Hey BC_Programming and Zuwer Still timeout?
[00:45]<@BC_Programming> I really don't care anymore
[00:45]<@BC_Programming> heh
[00:45]<@BC_Programming> but yes
[00:45]<@BC_Programming> sadly
[00:46]<@BC_Programming> Sorry I'm a little p'd off that my Input is being COMPLETELY ignored, but I guess I just have to get used to it since I'm so used to being the person that decides the direction things go
[00:46]<@BC_Programming> Come to think of it I guess there is a bright side to it, I don't have to make important design decisions
[00:46]<Craig> Hahahah too true, I love it when someone else gets yelled at. :P
[00:46]<Craig> instead of me that is,
[00:48]<Craig> I wish I had some way externally of trying to refresh my page... :S
[00:56]<Craig> Woot! It worked for me, BC_Programming, can you try once more on http
[00:56]<+Tux2> works
[00:56]<Craig> WOOT
[00:56]<Craig> ... not sure why...
[00:57]<Craig> What about my minecraft server, can you see it tux?
[00:57]<Craig> mc.brokedcomputer.com
[00:58]<Craig> Alright, I think I have this now. :)
[00:59]<+Tux2> Craig: sorry, trying to locate my phone... I think it's dead
[01:00]<Craig> I can call it if you like :P
[01:00]<Craig> Can't help if it doesnt ring though :p
[01:00]<+Tux2> lol, exactly
[01:01]<+Tux2> even avast couldn't locate it, which means it's dead
[01:01]<Craig> Ahhh
[01:01]<+Tux2> lol, wait, it's right here...
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> Avast Anti-virus?
[01:01]<+Tux2> and on?
[01:01]<+Tux2> yes, avast, anti-virus
[01:01]<@BC_Programming> how would that locate it:/
[01:01]<+Tux2> It's got anti-theft on it
[01:02]<Craig> It has a tool for gps and wifi location
[01:02]<Craig> It can also make the phone ring and such
[01:02]<+Tux2> exactly, but it seems that doesn't work on my phone :S
[01:04]<@BC_Programming> Welp looks like I'll be doing only 8 hrs from now on
[01:04]<@BC_Programming> I'm not working extra if I have to deal with nonsensical design decisions
[01:05]<Craig> Oh?
[01:05]<@BC_Programming> he wants me to split an application I made into two applications
[01:05]<Craig> Don't you mean that the other way around?
[01:05]<@BC_Programming> One is for listing available reports filters, one is for actually viewing them
[01:05]<@BC_Programming> And it's fecking stupid design to split it into all these applications
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> it's a freaking clusterfeck where all the applications are calling into each other by launching them with parameters...
[01:06]<Craig> What is their reasoning again?
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> like seriously wtf is that
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> they didn't have any
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> some nonsense about "recursion" which made no sense
[01:06]<Craig> Very strang in deed.
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> not strange
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> stupid
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> but
[01:06]<Craig> :P
[01:06]<@BC_Programming> hey I'm getting paid so if they want to make stupid design decisions that's his call
[01:06]<Craig> :P
[01:07]<@BC_Programming> I put down my opinion and he shot it down... so if this design turns out to be a train wreck it's not my fault
[01:07]<@BC_Programming> Though
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> Come to think of it, maybe this explains why the application is so ridiculous (IMO)
[01:08]<+Tux2> lol, exactly BC_Programming
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> also why is copying files called "installing"
[01:08]<+Tux2> It's also so that they can charge more since it's two separate programs
[01:08]<Craig> Heh,
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: no it's all one suite
[01:08]<@BC_Programming> but that might have some contract thing in it
[01:09]<Craig> They could be charging for aspects of the program? No?
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> Most of the money comes from supporting it
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> actually
[01:09]<Craig> Ah :p
[01:09]<@BC_Programming> that totally explains why they would want it to be unintuitive, kludgy, and filled with hacks
[01:10]<@BC_Programming> And of course all these logs of the channel are going to be online and they will see them one day
[01:10]<@BC_Programming> Also who uses a double for a field that is supposed to hold money values?
[01:11]<+Tux2> lol, it would help if I enabled the anti-theft features on the phone, wouldn't it?
[01:11]<+Tux2> Works like a charm now
[01:12]<@BC_Programming> hmm though this is a moral dilemma of sorts isn't it... The Job is basically forcing customers to have to use support by using almost intentionally crappy software designs
[01:13]<Craig> Sounds like a catch-22
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> I also like the hard-coded paths
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> oh wait no I don't like those
[01:13]<Craig> :S
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> on the root of the C: drive too
[01:13]<@BC_Programming> so the application requires admin
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> but otherwise just raises a permission error
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> chaching that's a support call right there isn't it
[01:14]<Craig> So no custom installs either then
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> what?
[01:14]<@BC_Programming> no it looks in that folder for configuration files
[01:15]<Craig> If the paths are hard coded, you can't install to F drive or such.
[01:15]<@BC_Programming> randomly, others it looks into the application's folder
[01:15]<Craig> hmmmm
[01:16]<+Tux2> BC_Programming: welcome to the world of software companies!
[01:16]<@BC_Programming> so it would seem
[01:17]<+Tux2> At least you have a job now, right?
[01:18]<Craig> :P Yes he does!
[01:18]<@BC_Programming> true
[01:19]<@BC_Programming> and it pays well
[01:19]<+Tux2> Enjoy the benefits and stick with it, even if it doesn't work out in the long run, it will look great on your resume
[01:19]<@BC_Programming> and really I guess I can understand reluctance to let a guy change a process that has been ongoing for years
[01:19]<+Tux2> Exactly BC_Programming. Gain trust, then start seeing about changes
[01:19]<Craig> Hehe, too true
[01:20]<@BC_Programming> gain their trust- then strike?
[01:20]<+Tux2> lol, if they trust you, then they are more willing to listen to you
[01:21]<+Tux2> Do what you do with the tools you are given, and do it the best you can
[01:22]<@BC_Programming> at least they kept the XML format I implemented
[01:22]<+Tux2> cool
[01:23]<+Tux2> Start small
[01:23]<@BC_Programming> replaced a proprietary text format that had special rules
[01:24]<@BC_Programming> " the first token after the exclamation but before the space is the Description, unless the Title contains a percent sign, in which case it describes the first Order to display from the database in the combobox specified in line 17 after the upside down batman symbol" type stuff
[01:24]<+Tux2> lol, wow
[01:25]<@BC_Programming> well at least I like my co-workers I suppose... they could all be douchebags but seems like I'm the only one
[01:25]<@BC_Programming> heh
[01:25]<+Tux2> lol
[01:25]<@BC_Programming> oh and there is a new guy starting next week too
[01:25]<+Tux2> ;) You won't be the new guy anymore then
[01:25]<@BC_Programming> I can reassure him when he sees the application
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> "It's OK, you can go home soon"
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> "I am home"
[01:26]<@BC_Programming> "That was fast"
[01:26]<+Tux2> lol
[01:38]<Zuwer> Oops, let the battery on my old phone go completely flat, it's on charge and still won't turn back on.
[01:50]<@BC_Programming> I guess this is a good reason to keep working on my other projects heheh
[01:52]<+Tux2> lol, well, I'm logging off for tonight, night everyone!
[01:52]<@BC_Programming> night
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[03:16]<Zuwer> I'm amazed that troll from #mibbit didn't start annoying other channels I am in, some little kid who loves to curse. :/
[03:44]<PCdoc> whose that?
[03:46]<Zuwer> Been under two nicks, but seems to have gotten bored and left now: keith19 and keithcmb.
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[09:54]<PCdoc> camerongray: pm !
[09:56]<PCdoc> Zuwer: pm ?
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[11:29]<jamer> So yesterday in network systems we had a game day
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[15:26]<Craig> Hello Geraldine! :)
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Session Start: Sat Aug 24 16:10:16 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [16:10] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[16:10] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[19:46]<@BC_Programming> haha I must have been catching up on the sleeps
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> went to bed 2AM
[19:46]<@BC_Programming> woke up just now, almost 7PM :O
[19:46]<jamer> I think I got the job XD
[19:47]<@BC_Programming> congrats
[19:47]<jamer> I went in today for observation and somehow worked the full shift cause a person wasnt there
[19:48]<jamer> Guy said ill call uou once the equitment is fixed ...
[19:48]<jamer> Worked the firsr half by myself on accident
[19:49]<jamer> Also my wrist is in a brace too
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[21:02]<+Tux2> BC_Programming!
[21:02]<@BC_Programming> hai
[21:02]<+Tux2> I got to test the new MLP card game coming out today!
[21:02]<@BC_Programming> lol
[21:02]<+Tux2> lol, wait, that isn't worded correctly
[21:03]<+Tux2> Today I got to play test the new MLP card game coming out in November!
[21:03]<+Tux2> My response: fun, fun, Fun, FUn, FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
[22:12]<+Tux2> lol, okay, my dad wants a t-shirt like mine, so I go online to try and find it... I haven't found ANYTHING on the shirt...
[22:12]<+Tux2> (of course this one was bought at a thrift store...)
[22:25]<+Tux2> I did an image search even and my search returned something similar, but not the same shirt...
[22:26]<@BC_Programming> you tried
[22:26]<@BC_Programming> that's what counts, heh
[22:40]<+Tux2> lol
[22:40]<+Tux2> maybe you'll have better luck: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35110620/2013-08-24%2022.02.13.jpg
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